Flat Bottom V for goalies
#16
Posted 05 November 2009 - 08:56 AM
The first number (numerator) is the width in thousandths of an inch of the flat-bottom cut in the FBV sharpening; this as compared to the total width of a player's blade (~.110") and a goalie's blade (~.160"). The second number (denominator) is the depth in ten-thousandsths of an inch (IIRC): how far that flat-bottom is pushed into the blade to create the edges.
So, for example, 80/50 is a relatively small flat pushed not very far into the blade, resulting in fairly low-angled 'fangs' as edges. 100/50 would create much more sharply-angled edges because of the much wider flat; 100/75 would make the edges a little more sharply-angled, but significantly (+50%) taller in pushing the same flat-bottom further into the blade.
(Someone smack me if I'm wrong.)
#17
Posted 05 November 2009 - 11:47 AM
"Where did you learn that move, Peter Puck?" George Bowman
"I believe in separation between church and skate"
#18
Posted 05 November 2009 - 12:14 PM
wex12, on Nov 5 2009, 10:47 AM, said:
I have been running a smooth stone along the outside of my blade to keep the outside sharp and it has kept them pretty sharp overall.
#20
Posted 01 December 2009 - 05:34 PM
"Where did you learn that move, Peter Puck?" George Bowman
"I believe in separation between church and skate"
#21
Posted 02 December 2009 - 10:55 AM
I have spoken to the guys at the places I get my skates sharpened about it. They are all afraid of the initial startup cost. However I am not sure how much they have looked into it.
#22
Posted 10 January 2010 - 07:27 AM
I'm very interested to try the new goalie-specific shapes (JR hinted at 115/Y or 120/Y), but I think goalies are really going to take to this or reject it (whether they know it or not) based on the shape of their cowlings. If they bottom out on the inside curve of the plastic too early, they'll feel like FBV might as well be a flat-cut that's hard to shuffle on; if they've got good clearance, they'll love it within 60 minutes.
In this respect, I think early adopters of the new Bauer cowlings (starting with the One100) and going to experience the most dramatic improvement in their skating on FBV. The whole point of that cowling is to allow lower-angle engagement with the ice (esp. in butterfly transitions and movements), and that's where FBV really excels: it gives incredible bite on the edge, from the point the edge engages all the way down to the point the cowling slips out. It does this far better, in fact, than deeper hollows do, and without the commensurate penalty in gliding. I felt shuffling was also easier on 100/50 than on 7/16 ROH, though others have noted that 100/75 is extremely hard to shuffle on.
#23
Posted 11 January 2010 - 03:13 AM
#24
Posted 11 January 2010 - 11:09 AM
I don't think it's fair to say that FBV edges don't catch "as well" as ROH - it might be more proper to say that because the edge is smaller, it requires a bit more precision during butterfly recoveries. That fits with what skaters have described in their own transitions.
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#28
Posted 26 February 2010 - 07:45 AM
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#30
Posted 26 February 2010 - 09:06 PM
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