Bauer Supreme TotalONE

[skyscrape 5]

for what it's worth in terms of 'fit & finish' my Tailand made TOs seems to be made much better then my Canadian made One95.

When I looked at a pair of Total Ones' in person I realized this sad truth as well. Great skate though!

[MLSman 22]

Skated on them this morning for almost 2 hours. Did not have a chance to bake them yet...gonna do it in 2 weeks when I go to Tampa. No need to have someone do it here when I can have the zen master supervise a bake. The fit was so comfortable out of the box, I thought I would try it. Sheesh...who am I kidding....there was no way I was going to leave them at home! Seriously though, the fit was great out of the box. Whoever built the last to my measurements did a superb job. St Jerome rocks man.

First thing...the ankle wrap for the boot. JR and I debated the problem I had for some time with the last custom I did that had too much volume in the upper. I have EXTREMELY narrow legs through the shin, so with my U+, I had to CRANK on the last two eyelets to get the upper part of the boot snug. It sucked, because the lower part of the boot was perfect, and cranking on the laces would tighten the boot at the lower part to the point of suffocation and pain. We popped in the custom form for the eyelets to be 3/8" back on the TOs. Instead, they reduced the volume in the upper 3/8"....and boy am I glad they did that. I now have even lacing, and the perfect upper wrap. Thanks again Bauer for the pleasant surprise.

It would be easy to say "WOW" when it comes to the first skate, but I think it makes more sense to describe the difference in the feel. Similar to the U+, there is almost no negative space. This makes a huge difference. The toebox is a bit roomy laterally, but the rest of the boot felt like a sneaker. The space will be all but eliminated once they are baked. There are two things that stand out after the experience:

1. The reflex tongue. JR told me I had to go for it. I was reluctant because I am SO used to the thick 5/8" felt tongue, and love the comfort it gave me. I used the Stiff insert. The jury is still out on the tongue for my PP, but I can tell you that it isn't a marketing ploy. This thing is for real and feels very different than anything I have ever felt. It really does work...but may not be something that everyone will like. All I can say is that it was strange to feel the way the skate put your foot back into a true skating position almost immediately. The best way to explain the "weirdness" is that after playing for over 27 years, there is an engrained muscle and foot memory that comes as part of my game. The reflex tongue gave my foot amnesia. :) I'm not saying I don't like it...I am just saying that one session does not give the tongue justice...I need to give my foot time to adjust to it.

2. Fusion steel. Another requirement from JR. I have used the LS2 holder before, so no real concerns with trying it. It's certainly lighter than the Custom+/Tuuk steel runner on my U+. From a feel perspective, the combo of the new steel and going to a 90/50 for the soft ice made skating very easy today. The power isn't there yet with the adjustment to the tongue, but the glide and turning was much easier than ever. One thing I noticed was that I wasn't as tired as I normally am when skating. I am big on being considerate with ice time for the other fellas when playing. I would come to the bench and never felt winded. I didn't feel like I had to work as hard. That is a nice feeling. Again, It's hard to say what worked specifically, but the combo steel/sharpening worked for me.

In any case, I am now consumed with looking at my schedule for the next month and maximizing ice time. Two weeks in FL will get me a ton of time playing...gotta bring the bag on the road for work. This summer is going to be a lot more exciting in preparation for next season.

[nphockey21 0]

I love these skates. The only problem is that my feet start to ache after a while of skating, i have always worn bauer or nike bauer but this pain has never happened, even with the one95s. I have tried different footbeds, and still get that foot ache. It feels like i have shin splints. It goes away a few hours after the skate but is there anything I can do to take that ache away? Thanks.

[BGM 0]

Skated on them this morning for almost 2 hours. Did not have a chance to bake them yet...gonna do it in 2 weeks when I go to Tampa. No need to have someone do it here when I can have the zen master supervise a bake. The fit was so comfortable out of the box, I thought I would try it. Sheesh...who am I kidding....there was no way I was going to leave them at home! Seriously though, the fit was great out of the box. Whoever built the last to my measurements did a superb job. St Jerome rocks man.

First thing...the ankle wrap for the boot. JR and I debated the problem I had for some time with the last custom I did that had too much volume in the upper. I have EXTREMELY narrow legs through the shin, so with my U+, I had to CRANK on the last two eyelets to get the upper part of the boot snug. It sucked, because the lower part of the boot was perfect, and cranking on the laces would tighten the boot at the lower part to the point of suffocation and pain. We popped in the custom form for the eyelets to be 3/8" back on the TOs. Instead, they reduced the volume in the upper 3/8"....and boy am I glad they did that. I now have even lacing, and the perfect upper wrap. Thanks again Bauer for the pleasant surprise.

It would be easy to say "WOW" when it comes to the first skate, but I think it makes more sense to describe the difference in the feel. Similar to the U+, there is almost no negative space. This makes a huge difference. The toebox is a bit roomy laterally, but the rest of the boot felt like a sneaker. The space will be all but eliminated once they are baked. There are two things that stand out after the experience:

1. The reflex tongue. JR told me I had to go for it. I was reluctant because I am SO used to the thick 5/8" felt tongue, and love the comfort it gave me. I used the Stiff insert. The jury is still out on the tongue for my PP, but I can tell you that it isn't a marketing ploy. This thing is for real and feels very different than anything I have ever felt. It really does work...but may not be something that everyone will like. All I can say is that it was strange to feel the way the skate put your foot back into a true skating position almost immediately. The best way to explain the "weirdness" is that after playing for over 27 years, there is an engrained muscle and foot memory that comes as part of my game. The reflex tongue gave my foot amnesia. :) I'm not saying I don't like it...I am just saying that one session does not give the tongue justice...I need to give my foot time to adjust to it.

2. Fusion steel. Another requirement from JR. I have used the LS2 holder before, so no real concerns with trying it. It's certainly lighter than the Custom+/Tuuk steel runner on my U+. From a feel perspective, the combo of the new steel and going to a 90/50 for the soft ice made skating very easy today. The power isn't there yet with the adjustment to the tongue, but the glide and turning was much easier than ever. One thing I noticed was that I wasn't as tired as I normally am when skating. I am big on being considerate with ice time for the other fellas when playing. I would come to the bench and never felt winded. I didn't feel like I had to work as hard. That is a nice feeling. Again, It's hard to say what worked specifically, but the combo steel/sharpening worked for me.

In any case, I am now consumed with looking at my schedule for the next month and maximizing ice time. Two weeks in FL will get me a ton of time playing...gotta bring the bag on the road for work. This summer is going to be a lot more exciting in preparation for next season.

What is the 90/50 you are referring to ?

Part of the not being as tired is probably also due LS2's being lighter than Custom+. I'm a big fan of Custom+ like yourself--when I have switched to LS2's I notice not as much fatigue in my legs.

[Skoda10 14]

90/50 is a "setting" (Not sure if that the correct term) for the Flat Bottom V sharpening.

[starsfan71 9]

What is the 90/50 you are referring to ?

Part of the not being as tired is probably also due LS2's being lighter than Custom+. I'm a big fan of Custom+ like yourself--when I have switched to LS2's I notice not as much fatigue in my legs.

90/50 is a ROH used in FBV Sharpening.

A ROH is like when you ask for 7/8 or 7/16 on a sharpening.

I'm not quite sure which traditional sharpening ROH 90/50 is like though.

[MLSman 22]

90/50 is a ROH used in FBV Sharpening.

A ROH is like when you ask for 7/8 or 7/16 on a sharpening.

I'm not quite sure which traditional sharpening ROH 90/50 is like though.

Close to 5/8...maybe a tad shallower. I think going from 90/75 had just as much to do with it as the reduction in weight. 3 strides and I was at full speed...and could easily glide from Center ice to the goal line without having to take another stride. The glide is surely attributed to the hollow.

[DevilsFan38 0]

Close to 5/8...maybe a tad shallower. I think going from 90/75 had just as much to do with it as the reduction in weight. 3 strides and I was at full speed...and could easily glide from Center ice to the goal line without having to take another stride. The glide is surely attributed to the hollow.

Definitely shallower, maybe more like 3/4? I went from 5/8 to 90/75 and the bite seemed pretty much the same, so 90/50 has to be shallower than that.

[skyscrape 5]

No icing sports told me that 90/75 was comparable to 5/8th's and 90/50 was comparable to 3/4th's.

[MLSman 22]

They are not exact equivalents. I know 5/8 felt shallower than 90/75. I had way more bite with the 90/75. Worked well on the hard ice for me, but as summer approached I felt I was skating on mud. I went to 90/50 and it is perfect. I have used 3/4 in the summer before...and did not get enough bite...so they are close but not exact.

[BGM 0]

I am thinking myself switching from 1/2" to 5/8"--here in TX the ice is not as hard as it should be. I'm 6'3" 180 so 1/2" has always given me a decent bite since I'm not "heavy" on my skates in the ice but might experiment with 5/8" to glide a little more.

[jjmills22 0]

I know it's been discussed hear but, prior to the Comfort Edge on the TotalOne, what material did Bauer use on their pro/ custom orders that wrapped arouns the quarter?

[JR Boucicaut 3760]

Minicel foam

[jjmills22 0]

Minicel foam

Thank You

[shifter 0]

Hmmm the supreme line should all fit the same correct? I tried on the one100 like a week ago and they were too tight around the forefoot ( width wise) and then when I tried on the totalone's much to my surprise they felt better with a small amount of pain that would probably go away with baking, so I am wondering is their a change of fit on the totalone's?..

[SolarWind 23]

Hmmm the supreme line should all fit the same correct? I tried on the one100 like a week ago and they were too tight around the forefoot ( width wise) and then when I tried on the totalone's much to my surprise they felt better with a small amount of pain that would probably go away with baking, so I am wondering is their a change of fit on the totalone's?..

this was already discussed in this very thread - just a few pages up

the liner in TOs is thinner, so the fit is ever slightly roomier then One95/One100.

the skate would open up further with baking so I wouldn't rule out One100 if it's almost good already.

[uclahockey707 1]

Total One Question Skate Guys:

So I've had my total ones since the release date and they fit amazing right out of the box, no problems what-so-ever...until about two weeks ago. I started experiencing sharp pain in my ankle bone (left talus bone???) while skating, to the point where the lower part of my ankle bone started to bruise and develop this weird callus. Now, my question is: is it best to re-bake at this point or to get that ankle area punched out or should I do something else entirely? Thanks in advance for any help.

[mickz 107]

Sorry guys, another baking question here. My left skate fits fine but I have a bit of pressure on my right foot on the inner part of my ankle. Would baking make much difference on a boot like this? Thanks.

[stuie7 6]

When I looked at a pair of Total Ones' in person I realized this sad truth as well. Great skate though!

I thought the top of the range skates of the Vapor/Supreme line were produced in Canada, does that mean the One100's or X60's are currently being Canadian made? Cant remember how it worked..

[massive74 4]

I thought the top of the range skates of the Vapor/Supreme line were produced in Canada, does that mean the One100's or X60's are currently being Canadian made? Cant remember how it worked..

if I'm not mistaken just One 95 model was produced in Canada , the rest overseas.

[rachael7 1]

Sorry guys, another baking question here. My left skate fits fine but I have a bit of pressure on my right foot on the inner part of my ankle. Would baking make much difference on a boot like this? Thanks.

If the problem area is part of the quarter package, then yes, baking will almost certainly help. You can build up your ankle a bit with tape or something first, so the baking will make a bit of extra room. But if the problem area is more forward, toward the eyelets, then baking may not help.

[MLSman 22]

NOTHING is made in Canada anymore. Only things that come from St Jerome are customs.

[sebseb 0]

Last skate made in Canada by Bauer was the ONE95, the top of the line Supreme, top of the line Vapor was always made in China not made in Canada

[JR Boucicaut 3760]

Last skate made in Canada by Bauer was the ONE95, the top of the line Supreme, top of the line Vapor was always made in China

Nope, Vapor 8, Vapor 10, Vapor XX and 1st year Vapor XXX were Canadian-made. Rest made overseas.

[Moose 1]

If I had a dime for each time the new perforated steel on the Vapor 8 skates cracked, I would have had 20 cents in the first 20 days.

I still contest the old silver/blue Vapor XX was the best skate (for me, I guess). Still am having issues getting used to my Vapor XXV. Even though they were more expensive, I wish I would have just bought another pair of the old XXs instead of the new XXV.

(in an attempt to connect this to TotalOne skate thread...) I remember saving up for the Vapor XXs before I went to play in college and thinking "wow... $400. Looks like skate prices have finally hit their ceiling." Not so much, I guess.