JR Boucicaut 3759 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 http://www.modsquadh...ken-zero-limit/I've been using this stick since the beginning of May - and now I've gotten the word to talk about it.The ZL (Zero Limit) is a different stick than the Razor Z9 - they are going for two top-end (albeit different) sticks. It comes in at 435g (20g lighter than Z9) with a 29.5" balance point, so more blade-light than the Z9.Also, the ZL is stiffer in the middle of the stick, whereas the Z9's flex profile was stiffest down in the lower half of the stick. Definitely easier for me to load the stick - prefer it over the Razor Z9 in that aspect.Definitely a well-made stick. 100% carbon, 3k weave throughout (which does leave it with an interesting feel due to the weave)Jason (jdksaves) will be able to answer any and all questions you may have about the stick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noodle3872 40 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Did they do a custom curve for you JR? How is puck feel? What will be the retail price point? Is this flex profile similar to the Nexus flex profile? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdksaves 56 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Price Point will be MAP pricing of $229.99 I'll let JR comment to the feel as I am slightly bias, but it feels extremely similar to Z9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Nice looking stick, can't wait to hold one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3759 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Did they do a custom curve for you JR? How is puck feel? What will be the retail price point? Is this flex profile similar to the Nexus flex profile?Yes, he had made mine for the Z9 and made this one with it.It's got good feel - like he said, similar to Z9, which didn't disappoint with our LTRs in that respect.I am still getting used to the balance. I've used it 4 times and since I'm working on two different sticks at this moment, there's a bit of an adjustment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyscrape 5 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Is the shaft shape any different than the Z9? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewie 721 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Awesome! Few followup questions. 1- would you prefer this newer stick for wristers over the z9. 2- what blade patterns will be available on release? 3- How far away are we from a release? 4- still made in USA like other top end mikens? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3759 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Yes, it's squarer than Z9. Bit of concavity as well.Is the shaft shape any different than the Z9?Yes; it's in the PDF I've attached, 4 patterns; think September, Jason can tell you better than I can; yesAwesome! Few followup questions. 1- would you prefer this newer stick for wristers over the z9. 2- what blade patterns will be available on release? 3- How far away are we from a release? 4- still made in USA like other top end mikens? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 I knew Booth was using something new. The squarer shape has me interested to see what this feels like in my hands. I may have to invest in one if I can find an Iginla clone when they hit the shelves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
th6252 25 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 so just to be clear, because i'm kind of an idiot, the zl would be mid-kick option while the z9 is the low-kick option? considering the description of the shaft profiles as well, could we think of this along the lines of bauer TO/boxier, concave shaft, mid-kick vs. x60/rounder, slimmer, low kick (i say x60 and not apx because the TO was lighter than the x60 at the time of it's release)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kerr 1 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 JR, how does you custom blaade compare to the PM9? It seems like it has more rocker and abit more height. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sammyg_16 2 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 excuse my stupidity but will this be released in canada or is miken just in the US? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdksaves 56 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Is the shaft shape any different than the Z9?It is much more boxy than Z9Awesome! Few followup questions. 1- would you prefer this newer stick for wristers over the z9. 2- what blade patterns will be available on release? 3- How far away are we from a release? 4- still made in USA like other top end mikens?1 this does have a different flex profile, but i wouldn't say it is a slap shot or wrist shot stick as that always depends on where the bottom hand is when a player takes certain shots. Some will be different than others on how they prefer to shoot a stick. What I can say from testers feedback and my own experience it is if your bottom hand is slightly lower this stick will be easier to move into and if your hand is higher Z9 might be the way to go. A lot of it goes to personal preference and we are trying to create sticks that aren't designed for one particular shot as everyone at some point needs to use a certain shot for a given situation. 2 We will have all ten of our patterns that we had, but much more limited release of the patterns that haven't went as well as the 4 we have in the Sell sheet that is attached, so don't worry if you use a pattern that isn't on there it will just be a non stock booking only type pattern that any dealer will be able to order if they want it.3 Stick will launch September 15th 20124 Yes, this stick is made in the USAso just to be clear, because i'm kind of an idiot, the zl would be mid-kick option while the z9 is the low-kick option? considering the description of the shaft profiles as well, could we think of this along the lines of bauer TO/boxier, concave shaft, mid-kick vs. x60/rounder, slimmer, low kick (i say x60 and not apx because the TO was lighter than the x60 at the time of it's release)?I would Say ZL is totally mid and Z9 is mid to lowexcuse my stupidity but will this be released in canada or is miken just in the US?Nothing stupid about your question, but to answer they will be offered in Canada, just like the Z9. Keep in mind we are a growing company so we are not in ever shop everywhere, but we are working on it, So if you don't see Miken where you shop ask about it and more than likely they can order one for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatwabbit 93 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 any chance you might be marketing this overseas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewie 721 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 By all means ask your store about miken sticks. That's the only way they will know your interested, and get them on the shelves. Especially do this if you live in SEMichigan! The z9 is likely more my style from descriptions, but I'll likely check thIs one out as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3759 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 JR, how does you custom blaade compare to the PM9? It seems like it has more rocker and abit more height.Nope and nope LOL...about the same, and a little shorter.Curve is more abrupt whereas the Modano clone is a bit more gradual Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gefiltefish 9 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 It is much more boxy than Z9I would Say ZL is totally mid and Z9 is mid to lowTwo big selling points for me!I actually went into a LHS intending in buying a Z9 and found the shaft shape not to my liking. It was the only thing preventing me from buying a Miken stick at the time. Very excited to hear that the shape is a little larger and/or squarer than the Z9 and the flex moves up a little bit.Just wish 110-flex would be an option - but that won't hold me back!I love the way the stick looks and with the notes on the shaft shape and flex profile - I will be a for-sure purchaser come September. Good job Miken! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdksaves 56 Report post Posted June 6, 2012 any chance you might be marketing this overseas?That is the plan, talking about possible show opportunities in the last few days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyscrape 5 Report post Posted June 6, 2012 It is much more boxy than Z9this is awesome! I am in! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buzz_LightBeer 962 Report post Posted June 6, 2012 Just wish 110-flex would be an option - but that won't hold me back!It plays a touch stiffer, I normally play an 85-90, went with an 80 MV-5, and found it to be a solid 85 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sammyg_16 2 Report post Posted June 6, 2012 Nothing stupid about your question, but to answer they will be offered in Canada, just like the Z9. Keep in mind we are a growing company so we are not in ever shop everywhere, but we are working on it, So if you don't see Miken where you shop ask about it and more than likely they can order one for you. :):):):) yes I've. Been looking to try a miken stick for a while but I haven't found one in my lhs so I will have to ask that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morten 2 Report post Posted June 7, 2012 any chance you might be marketing this overseas?I found a shop in northern Sweden who sells Miken, after asking myself that question a few weeks ago.http://www.hockeypractice.se/klubbor/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2083 Report post Posted June 7, 2012 I'd definitely get one if they had a Heatley clone :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatwabbit 93 Report post Posted June 7, 2012 That is the plan, talking about possible show opportunities in the last few daysHaha... 'possible show opportunities' would mean it wont come to Australia unless you intend to showcase at Nationals in Sep, and that means dealing thru the local retailers.I'd take one in a 80 flex P92 RH in a heartbeat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3759 Report post Posted June 8, 2012 Z9 on left, ZL on right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
